From anfedorov at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 08:33:59 2010 From: anfedorov at gmail.com (Andrey Fedorov) Date: Fri Feb 26 08:34:14 2010 Subject: [Ometa] Relationship to Roy/Haridi's book Message-ID: <7659cab31002260833u471ab45ahe585a3ed6c8395b4@mail.gmail.com> I've been reading Roy and Haridi's "Concepts, Techniques, and Models of Computer Programming", and the intuition behind the book seems to significantly align with what OMeta and VPRI's "Fundamental New Computing Technologies" seem to advocate. In particular, the book goes about introducing the reader to various "kernel" languages, which are what I think Alan Kay referred to as "crystallizations of style" [1]. Ian: is any of your work on OMeta influenced by this book, or do you share a common influence with the authors? Or am I just imagining the relationship? - Andrey 1. http://gagne.homedns.org/~tgagne/contrib/EarlyHistoryST.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/ometa/attachments/20100226/b68ef19f/attachme= nt.htm From alexwarth at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 20:39:16 2010 From: alexwarth at gmail.com (Alessandro Warth) Date: Fri Feb 26 20:39:10 2010 Subject: [Ometa] Relationship to Roy/Haridi's book In-Reply-To: <7659cab31002260833u471ab45ahe585a3ed6c8395b4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7659cab31002260833u471ab45ahe585a3ed6c8395b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Andrey, Alan and I looked at that book as a potential source of inspiration / programming language ideas that might be useful for STEPS, and that we might implement using OMeta. But the design of OMeta itself was not inspired by it -- OMeta's main influences were Schorre's META-IIand Tesler et al.'s LISP70 . Cheers, Alex On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Andrey Fedorov wrote: > I've been reading Roy and Haridi's "Concepts, Techniques, and Models of > Computer Programming", and the intuition behind the book seems to > significantly align with what OMeta and VPRI's "Fundamental New Computing > Technologies" seem to advocate. In particular, the book goes about > introducing the reader to various "kernel" languages, which are what I th= ink > Alan Kay referred to as "crystallizations of style" [1]. > > Ian: is any of your work on OMeta influenced by this book, or do you share > a common influence with the authors? > > Or am I just imagining the relationship? > > - Andrey > > 1. http://gagne.homedns.org/~tgagne/contrib/EarlyHistoryST.html > > _______________________________________________ > OMeta mailing list > OMeta@vpri.org > http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/ometa > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/ometa/attachments/20100226/580ad675/attachme= nt.htm From anfedorov at gmail.com Fri Feb 26 22:15:22 2010 From: anfedorov at gmail.com (Andrey Fedorov) Date: Fri Feb 26 22:15:37 2010 Subject: [Ometa] Relationship to Roy/Haridi's book In-Reply-To: References: <7659cab31002260833u471ab45ahe585a3ed6c8395b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7659cab31002262215q7798fa2bjf54fd5e9f2e2f7a5@mail.gmail.com> Ah, glad to hear I wasn't imagining it. And yes, I was thinking of STEPS, thanks for clarifying. And thanks for the link to LISP70, as well - it looks really interesting. Do you have any similar recommendations for further reading related to the inspiration for STEPS? Cheers, Andrey On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Alessandro Warth wro= te: > Hi Andrey, > > Alan and I looked at that book as a potential source of inspiration / > programming language ideas that might be useful for STEPS, and that we mi= ght > implement using OMeta. But the design of OMeta itself was not inspired by= it > -- OMeta's main influences were Schorre's META-IIand Tesler et al.'s > LISP70 . > > Cheers, > Alex > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Andrey Fedorov wrot= e: > >> I've been reading Roy and Haridi's "Concepts, Techniques, and Models of >> Computer Programming", and the intuition behind the book seems to >> significantly align with what OMeta and VPRI's "Fundamental New Computing >> Technologies" seem to advocate. In particular, the book goes about >> introducing the reader to various "kernel" languages, which are what I t= hink >> Alan Kay referred to as "crystallizations of style" [1]. >> >> Ian: is any of your work on OMeta influenced by this book, or do you sha= re >> a common influence with the authors? >> >> Or am I just imagining the relationship? >> >> - Andrey >> >> 1. http://gagne.homedns.org/~tgagne/contrib/EarlyHistoryST.html >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OMeta mailing list >> OMeta@vpri.org >> http://vpri.org/mailman/listinfo/ometa >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://vpri.org/pipermail/ometa/attachments/20100227/58c007b6/attachme= nt.htm